In this episode, Armand DiMele discusses the complexities of pain, both physical and emotional, with guests Ben Starr and Giullian Gioiello. They explore various types of pain, including nociceptive, neuropathic, and psychogenic pain, sharing personal experiences and insights. The conversation delves into how emotional pain can often overshadow physical pain and the importance of acknowledging both. Listeners are encouraged to call in and share their own experiences with pain, creating a space for understanding and healing. The episode emphasizes the significance of recognizing the connections between our emotional states and physical sensations.