In this episode, host Armand DiMele welcomes his longtime friend and psychologist Dr. Bernard Starr to discuss the evolution of psychotherapy, particularly focusing on the importance of emotional awareness and the concept of spiritual psychology. They explore how traditional therapy often emphasizes the ego and personal experiences, while spiritual psychology seeks to transcend these limitations. The conversation delves into the challenges of integrating emotional experiences with a broader understanding of consciousness, emphasizing the need for both personal and spiritual growth. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own emotional journeys and the complexities of relationships.