In this episode, Armand DiMele and Roberta Maria Atti explore the intricate relationship between depression and the ancient practice of alchemy. They discuss how the transformative processes of alchemy can serve as a metaphor for understanding depression, emphasizing the importance of embracing suffering as part of personal growth. The hosts delve into the idea that just as alchemy involves the combination and transformation of elements, individuals can emerge from depression stronger and more creative. They highlight the significance of guidance and the necessity of undergoing a ‘kneading’ process to facilitate healing and transformation.